On the 20th birthday of the French IIGS programming group, Open Apple podcast co-host Ken Gagne sits down with Antoine Vignau and Olivier Zardini to chat about the group’s history, what the Apple II and BBS scenes were like in France in the 1980s, how they acquired the rights and assets to popular licenses and ported them to the Apple II, their open source philosophy, and news from other French developers.

You can listen at the Open Apple Web site, or download the episode from iTunes.

Em is the former editor-in-chief of A2Central, as well as a blogger and rescuer of classic manuals and books.